All in is NOT an informational raise!

I’ve said it before and I’m saying it again ….. All in is NOT an informational raise!

I’m trying to save you some cash here guys! – Time after time I see people going all in with hands preflop that they could have got away from, only to get called by a monster!

Take last night’s sit n go for example – 8 players left, I’m sitting there in late position with AA (hoping that someone gets excited!) – Blinds are currently only 50/100 and I have 2650 – a guy in middle position goes all in for 2300 and naturally after a nanosecond I decide to call :D

he turns over 88 and I’m 80% / 20% to win (which I do) :P

Let’s re-run it from that guys POV ,seeing how else he could have played it – No one has entered the pot and he decides to raise it 3xBB (300) – it gets folded round to me who can do one of two things: Call or Raise – Definite raise here me thinks – Lets say that I crank it up to 1600 . When it gets back to him he has a decision:

Total pot =  1600 + 300 + 150 (blinds) = 2050
He has to call 1300 more – he is getting odds of 1.58/1

Scenario 1: He folds and still has 2000 in chips to fight another day and is still very well placed in the tourney.
Scenario 2: He calls the 1.58/1 odds and is out of position on the flop.
Scenario 3: He now moves all in for his extra 700 hoping that I will fold (very unlikely! :P ) or have an under pair

Some odds: He is 7.5/1 against hitting a set on the flop
He is 3.5/1 against to see a flop of all undercards
With him holding 88 he can say that I will be holding a range of hands. We’ll say that he puts me on holding either a Pair ranging from AA-TT or on high cards ranging from AK-AJ (and he’d be right! :D ). Putting me on these hands I have a 38% chance of holding a pair, that therefore leaves me with a 62% chance of holding the overcards.

If I’m holding an overpair he is likely to win 20%
If I’m holding two overcards he is likely to win 55%  (we’ll say for the ease that it’s 50%)

Poker Hand Analysis: The sums: 0.38(0.20) + 0.62(0.50) = 0.39
So he has a 39% chance of winning which is 1.61/1 (therefore making either his call or moving all in a bad move)

Overall it’s not looking great and I would say that the best policy would be to lay them down gracefully – You have a player (me) who has been pretty tight and solid up until now suddenly re-raising! It’s unlikely that it’s an underpair so you are either a 20% dog or are in a coin flip scenario. Do you want to risk your tournament on these odds?! I wouldn’t.

You have stated that you have a good hand … I’ve stated that mine is better … get over it and move onto the next one, get your chips in when you have the best of it :D

cheers

(Life Lesson: Always try to leave yourself an exit strategy. Don’t blindly devote everything you have to a cause without assessing all the facts first).


1 Comment »

  1. Renee said

    Thanks for the non-informational raise : ) I find myself going too far in during the pre flop, thinking I have it won. Hard to get over, but good. Thanks for the article…

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